How to get in flow in the midst of limiting beliefs and adversities? As long as you are human, there will always be adversities and challenges. James Lin, also known as J Flow, is a serial entrepreneur, motivational speaker, and breakfree mentor. It is his life purpose to create intellectual property that transforms the human condition thru flow and inspire 1 Billion breakthroughs. He currently teaches a powerful breakfree framework that helps entrepreneurs and professionals through the difficulties of divorce by guiding them to the next steps so they can get truly complete with the divorce, create a new identity and move on to creating the life of their dreams. He is also dedicated to empowering future generations and partners with non profits to building schools in the Philippines.
 
We talked about:
  • The importance and power of the right peer group or mastermind (e.g. Entrepreneurs’ Organization and Tony Robbins Platinum Partnership)
  • The greatest reward is where fear and pain is.
  • Immersion for super growth
  • The practice of acknowledging yourself in the mirror every day
  • Get into the 3rd perspective you can see the truth
  • “Victory to the big mind” – the commitment to yourself, to your growth, to your truths
  • How to maintain your heightened state
  • How to make better and better decisions from a resourceful state?
  • Josh Waitzkin’s technique to cultivate anchors of flow states

Quotes

  • The Greatest Reward Is Where the Fear And Pain Is.
  • Be Flow. Share flow. Teach flow.
  • When you are in flow state, your subconscious brings forth all the information where you need it when you need it
  • what we focus on is where my energy goes
  • The problem is usually not the problem. The problem is the state you are in facing the problem
  • How uncomfortable you are willing to be and stay there is inversely proportional to how successful you’ll be in life
  • When you break through the walls that limit you, possibilities open up and that’s such an empowering feeling.

Books

 

CK LIN 0:06

I’m really excited to be doing this podcast with James Lin. Why I want to have James on the show is he’s a serial entrepreneur. And he’s also really committed to his personal and professional development. And when I meet people like that, I want to talk to them. And I want to hear how they are operationalizing, seeing what they learn from different modalities, different domains and bring that into their life, bring that into their relationships, bring that into their businesses. So thank you so much for being on the show, James.

JAMES LIN 0:43

Thank you. CK, I am honored and grateful for this opportunity to share my story and to share with your listeners and share with the world. So why don’t we actually start off from what did you say yes to my invitation? Well, for one, I realized that through my journey, I discovered my purpose. And my purpose is to share my journey and to serve. And it was just the right time and moment for me as I have gone through this incredible journey of self-discovery, empowerment. And I realize I have a voice I want to share. So the right opportunity came at the right moment.

CK LIN 1:40

Beautiful. Was there a moment where you realize you have a story you want to share?

JAMES LIN 1:47

Yes. When I was at Tony Robbins  Date With Destiny. The first one that I went to, in December, I discovered my destiny. And at that moment I realized this path I’ve gone through, we all go through so much. But by sharing it even, and I can impact one person, I feel that I’m growing and shining my light. So there’s a moment. First, Unleash the Power Within. In November, I broke free of so many limiting beliefs, beliefs that came when I was young, and when I was bullied or when I first moved to America, and I felt like I was not enough and I didn’t understand the culture. I didn’t understand the language. And so from that, I feel in the past I would just stay low to the ground and I remember distinctively, being bullied very badly. And I was five or six. And just somehow, like, it’s called the genesis of identity, okay? where when you’re young, when you feel something happened, what caused you pain, and that in that age, you made a decision. And that decision was like, Ah, from suffering, that pain of like, being picked on. I’ve learned like, Oh be very private or just stay low to the ground. And so, when I broke free of those limiting beliefs, I felt Ah, I want to share it, I want to share how I broke free.

CK LIN 4:03

How did you break free? You don’t have to share a specific process per se. I mean, unless you want to. But share with us, unpack that a little bit. How did you actually break free because I would assert for the people who are listening. They may have already identified some limiting beliefs or mindset that they know that that’s holding them back. But they are unable to let that limiting belief go. Yes. So how did you do that?

JAMES LIN 4:34

So one was the, I mean, at UPW. They have a lot of different exercises. Sure, where one, in particular, is called the dickens process. Most people don’t want to go into the pain or into the fear. And that process actually makes you dive in and make that pain double, triple. Then from that utilize pain to shift your perspective into seeing the same scenario, but from a new point. Right. So during the dickens process at UPW. I recalled the pain of being bullied or when I first moved to America, as a child, I didn’t see it as this opportunity to go and for better education, the American dream that my parents had in mind, I just saw it as being removed away from my father, because he stayed in Asia. So, the dickens process, you go into the pain, and you magnify and magnify and then from that, you look at how that decision has impacted you in the past. Right, how is it affected? I was relatively shy. And I didn’t really know who I was and I was looking externally for affirmation or love. But when I went through the process, you then move it to the present, how has that decision that happened to you what happened in the past? How has that affected you in the present? And then effects all your relationships, family, with your friends with yourself, right? And then it’s very interesting because it then goes into the future. See, most people don’t change because it’s, they don’t, they don’t feel enough pain or enough pleasure to change. That’s how you create lasting change. So by doing that process where you bring up these old beliefs of like, I’m not enough or it’s the number one fear people have is that I’m not enough and I’m not loved right.

CK LIN 7:07

I’m not loved for who I am; I’m loved because of XYZ achievement.

JAMES LIN 7:12

Exactly Yeah. And so that’s sort of the decision another decision I made when I was very young because when I came to LA I just fell in love with basketball show time and Michael Jordan and I always remember being just so bad at it. I’ve distinctively remembered a time where I was always picked last in school and the playground This was when I was five or six. And I recall like, this moment of just feeling I was about to be picked last. And it’s usually the two most popular kids and on the court that becomes a captain, they pick right. So one time I was supposed to be picked last Already I was already last. But this guy said now I don’t want him he sucks too bad. No, I was very short. I was uncoordinated, to say the least. And I remember when he said that, the other captain said, you have to take him otherwise you’ll be six versus four. it’d be unbalanced. And they got into a fight in a physical fight in front of me over how badly I sucked. and I remember feeling so embarrassed and so much pain of feeling not enough that I ran home and I was like, I was like, expressing myself to my grandmother just beating myself up. there’s something that I love so much. But I wasn’t born with it. And she basically looked at me and said, What are you going to do about it.

CK LIN 9:03

the wisdom of grandmother, her wisdom, a grandmother.

JAMES LIN 9:05

She comforted me with some amazing talent needs food. And then she said, What are you going to do about it? I remember being six years old and putting my foot on the ground and saying, no matter what, I’m going to be great at basketball. So I made a decision about my outcome. And I basically learned the 10,000-hour rule, like, so I was just practicing all the time, I was playing basketball, I had a basketball with me, wherever I went, I said, What do you have to do? You have to shoot the hoop 20,000 times you have to dribble 50,000 times in order to be good. But the key is, it wasn’t worked for me. I loved it. I enjoy the entire process of it. So I took 10 years before I got to high school, and I made the team. There was an amazing coach who believed in me made me captain. And in that year that I was Captain, our team won the championship for the first time in 22 years. And I remember another decision from that was like, Ah, look, I feel I overcame something that I thought was impossible. And that was a core part of who I became. Because that belief is still with me today. I could pick up a completely new hobby, and just have zero talent in it. But if I decide the outcome, and I’m willing to give it my all without worrying about failing without giving up, like, eventually I’ll be good at it. Right. Yeah. So from that was a belief that came on. But then I started to tie achievement with what I was really after just love and approval from my family from my father. And through my journey, when I realized, through pain and suffering, I realized that it had nothing to do with achievement. It’s what they say the science of achievement versus the art of fulfillment. And when I awakened, it had nothing to do with the businesses that I started and I started a business in my mother’s garage, the few hundred dollars. I built it up, I got very lucky and I just was always creating value. I’m looking for ways to create value. But there was maybe a subconscious thing there. That was like, ah, but then I’ll feel acknowledgment, then they’ll love me. Yeah, exactly. Validate me. Exactly. Yeah. So when I broke free of that, and realize that the foundation, the core value that I was looking for was love and connection. And I opened up to my father I expressed to him that’s how I felt. And I learned something called the five love languages.

CK LIN 12:34

Well, before you go there, and actually I’m curious, what was what caused the awakening moment? Was it just simply you were laying around one night and came to you or was there a specific process or a specific book or specific teacher? How did you wake yourself?

JAMES LIN 12:53

You know that feeling when you work so hard for something and then when it finally arrives. How long does that feeling usually last right? I guess it doesn’t last that long. So I realized through the progress of whether it be investments or building businesses, I realized I was always still seeking more and more externally. But when I started going through this incredible self-discovery, finding myself, I was just learning a lot of different truths out there and then defining who I am, there were certain moments of peak and again, usually relates with pain. So for my father, I expressed to him like, Oh, you know how much I love you, bro. And he wasn’t expressing that back and I was like, starting to feel uncomfortable? Why isn’t he saying it back? I caught myself the new me the awareness. Yeah, the awareness of that he’s talking really quick. Let me hear what he’s actually saying. And I’ve learned that my grandfather never expressed to him to your father, to my father that he loves him. and then I realized oh he doesn’t even know the word. It’s a generational thing. But through the journey of self-discovery and exploring the world, just being present, and truthful to yourself, what you are really about. I uncovered that and then from that, I basically ran with it.

CK LIN 14:59

I asked that question because we also speculate that a lot of people who are listening to this are either aspirational entrepreneurs or entrepreneurs who are striving to make their first hit, right? The single and to them is like, oh, why are you guys talking about this? I want to be successful. But from all the high performers, entrepreneurs, leaders that I met, at some point, they realize like, that is an empty pursuit. I mean, yes, go for that success for sure. But at some point, they realize like, wow, is there is is it all about hitting my net worth goal or my revenue goal or my relationship goal? Whatever it was it was there a moment where you felt that existential stress. Was there a moment?

JAMES LIN 15:51

Yeah, I feel a specific moment would probably be when I felt great pain and suffering. And I realized that it had nothing to do with money success had to do with internally finding what you’re about. See, most people see very successful people, right? But it’s the tip of the iceberg. Right? They can see the surface and they’re like, oh, they’re successful, but they can make assumptions like, Oh, they never suffer pain, or they never know that or they were born with it or something that. What I realized through my journey is to really be successful, it’s not about what you can achieve. It’s what you can serve, what value you can bring to the world. And there’s a distinction there because People who focus on let’s say a number. Yeah, that’s what they focus on. They can manifest that but that the highest, the highest dream that you can set could be the limit. You’re holding yourself back. Yeah.

CK LIN 17:20

That’s beautiful. So what other process Have you come across that really help you let go of these limiting beliefs?

JAMES LIN 17:26

So through my journey basically just uncovering so much from within, through UPW and  Date With Destiny. I have basically been on this journey this year. I essentially opened myself up to just growing, growing for the sake of contributing. From that, I’ve done Landmark. I’ve looked at Transcendental Meditation. Yes. I’ve been training in Europe, everything from public speaking to coaching to empowering people. So I’ve, I’ve learned to just free myself from, there’s just one perspective, one truth and to just dive in, dive into just learning what’s out there, what is the best in the world and how they’re, how they’re sharing, how they’re teaching, how they are empowering people and from that, creating my my truth.

CK LIN 18:50

Well, how did you pick these teachers? What are your criteria for picking these teachers? Is it just the What they say online? Was it through Friends recommendation, was it through a felt experience with them?

JAMES LIN 19:09

So I learned about this idea of modeling after the masters from Tony Robbin so, again, I’ve been to probably like, eight, nine events this year which is a lot. Yeah. I’ve been traveling all over the world. And part of it is modeling after someone who’s already excellent. who’s already outstanding in what they are in their gifts. Part of is an intuitive part of me that I’ve learned to uncover of trusting your instinct when people are talking about their experiences. So, one of the things I would do is go around asking people, what is one book that absolutely changed your life? And then I would know when I want to ask for, let’s say, recommendations and opinions, I found, I think maybe from entrepreneurship, a lot of times you will ask questions that are biased, like, in some way, okay? Like, if I say, if I asked this question of all I heard CrossFit is amazing I’ve heard so many great things about it, “what’s your experience with CrossFit? Or how does CrossFit empower you?” That’s leading you to an answer of what I want to hear, versus, what’s one tool that you use, that has absolutely empowered you? just open slate. And so learning to ask better questions, learning that the quality of questions that we ask determines the quality of life that we have, and then intuitively I’ve gotten better and better at trusting my instinct of like, oh, that resonates with me. Dr. Joe Dispenza, Or this book about, about flow, not stealing fire? Like, there’s so much content, there’s so much out there, right?

CK LIN 21:12

There is a buffet of information out there.

JAMES LIN 21:15

Yeah, correct. And we all have these filters that we can tell what’s authentic to who we are. So just being on the lookout with that intention has really helped me. once breaking free of the limiting beliefs of seeking external validation or externally acknowledgment from within seeing what resonates with me, and then just being open to talking to a lot of people, about what’s transformed their life and then as they’re speaking their truth, see what resonates with you.

CK LIN 21:55

So what are some their books that you have come across that Change your life that empowers your life.

JAMES LIN 22:04

Sure. Feel I would say one. One of the earlier ones was four-hour workweek, okay, by Tim Ferriss. Yeah, when I started building my business,

I was always of the mindset, I applied that same idea of basketball, like, I’m just gonna, like, work, work, work, work, work, work ethic, just outwork everyone. and I remember, just with this mindset of, Okay, I’m just gonna and there was success with that.

But when I read that book about the four-hour workweek, it just opened my mind to what is possible. Right? So then I started testing, I started by saying I’m gonna go buy a ticket, I was always a planner, before, I’m gonna buy a ticket, I’m going to show up somewhere in the world, and then just see what happens. So oftentimes, again, people go way from fear and pain. Now I’ve learned the greatest reward is where the fear of pain is, right? Like, why is it causing pain? Why is it causing you fear, right? And then, again, usually, it’s something that maybe happened, even when we were so young, that unconsciously, we took that and made a decision with that. But then when you flip that on the upside, you’re like, Oh, my God, I just love flowing all the time.

Like, for example, with, with flow, I remember when I first came to the US, I was always dancing. I was always listening to Michael Jackson. And I was always like, dancing and jumping up and down. I remember somewhere along the lines of growing up,I know, people say, Why are you so happy? Or like, why like, calm down like, and I think just subconsciously, I turned down the volume, so to speak. And it wasn’t till honestly covered. My flow, that’s part of my destiny, is to be flow, to share flow, and to teach flow. And just recognizing who you are. I do have a poster here that they have that great that you create, where you visually remind yourself on what do you stand for? Right to, to the listeners out there again, there are many ways to, to make money, there are many ways to succeed. But when you can combine it with something that , your purpose, one, you have an incredible advantage because you’re playing the long game. Right? If you know your outcome, you know that your outcome is to serve and people served different ways. Right? So when I discovered my outcome to serve to flow, Then I started proactively seeking out what goes towards that outcome? our unconscious then picks up like, oh, okay, there’s so many conversations Oh, that conversation. that book about four-hour workweek, or that book about eat, move, sleep. That was when I had a breakthrough about health. I remember, doing this open eye meditation. And I went to the full moon party, and I remember wandering into the waters a couple hundred feet out, and I laid there, and I just had an awakening about man, I should really treat my health as the foundation of everything. Because with energy, you can do anything. With energy, you can show up more in your relationships, you can show up more for you, for your business, or you can show more for your family friends, . So those two books have been really had an impact because once I started reading that book, eat move sleep, I started to just take a lot of tools from it standing when I’m working, moving around or learning about the 8020 rule or Pomodoro techniques. Again, the key a key is to at times chunk up into what is your intention behind

CK LIN 26:25

what’s shrunk up?

JAMES LIN 26:26

chunk up is to look to zoom out to look at what you’re doing from a 30,000 feet high angle, right? Oftentimes, we can get in the rat race in the details of like, Okay, in this business, I gotta do sales, I’m gonna do marketing, I’m gonna do this, I gotta do this. That’s why I love traveling, taking you out of your normal day to day element, and then asking yourself tough questions. Yes, I’ve been doing this, but like, what is the truth? What is your truth, and then zooming out, jumping up to look at will remind yourself of the why people focus on the how, right way too much remind yourself of the why, then you’re unconscious, and you put yourself into flow state. See, our unconscious is so much more powerful than unconscious mind, unconscious, like, if I took a look around, my conscious records, there’s that there were unconscious records, everything, all the books you’ve ever read all the TED Talks you ever watch, I mean, you’re unconscious, when you’re in flow, state your unconscious, bring forth the relevant information, when you need it, where you need it, how you need it. And I found whether it’s through traveling or going into the wilderness and meditating and just being still and embracing Mother Nature, or just like, finding some silence or time to just think, proactively versus reacting. There’s so much to react to in the world. Yeah. And when we discover that from within our purpose, then we will proactively start to manifest things and draw upon things into our lives. So those are two books that I felt are pretty, the health and the foundation of sleeping better, . And then also, just the possibilities of the four hour mindset wasn’t that like, I worked four hours, we didn’t work for hours a week, but , what, compared to what I was doing before, it’s like, I’m just going to grind it in some dark warehouse somewhere versus like, opening up, exploring, learning from learning and sharing, growing from even different cultures around the world, right? And then saying, Oh, that makes sense. Why do people do what they do? Right? So I found they say that you’re the, you’re the average of the five or six people that you’re closest to, I found that six person for me, once I uncovered about books and knowledge, that six person is masters or people from the who’ve shared through books. So then I just started to just read, read, read. And there’s so much information out there, and you can absorb and learn from people who’ve already done it like, Michael Phelps, who you won so many gold medals, like, what are the characteristics? That really people who are you know, in peak state? What are they doing way that’s consistent across the board? Yeah, so I would say different books have different impacts on my life, and to reread those books, at different parts of your life, you actually absorb and learn different things.

CK LIN 30:22

There’s a lot of different places I can go with, I will start off by saying, I actually listened to my own podcast, because I’m a different person, different time. So I can actually hear different things from what the guests have told me or told the audience to actually listen to that. So it’s a beautiful practice. Thank you for sharing. Do you look at it more a portfolio approach where the specific date and specific time that you would say, hey, from this time, this time, or from this month to this month, I’m going to focus on growth? Was it all for you would be, let me just take a hiatus and all focus on growth this whole year, versus taking a more of a portfolio approach.

JAMES LIN 31:11

So I’ve learned about immersion. Complete immersion, allows you to break through before, maybe like, I would read a book, like, next week, read another chapter next week, reading the chapter. Now I’ve learned the power of immersion. So like, this year, in particular, I’ve been just cleared my plate to just go full-on into super growth. And that’s just going into, events or seminars where for five, six days, you just go fully in and play full out, and just immerse yourself into it completely. So I found that to be a great practice, where when you have the breakthroughs that you have at different events, it then becomes about spaced repetition, about incorporating that into your life.

CK LIN 32:12

Right, the hours that you were talking about earlier.

JAMES LIN 32:14

Correct? Yeah. So the portfolio approach, I technically am doing that, because I’m immersing in different things, right. But at the same time, I found the power of presence, to be completely focused in on something, learn the breakthroughs, feel what you feel. And then from that create, a routine, create I read this book, it’s called how to how to change your mind in 21 days. So after UPWI, I took a solo RV trip up into Portland. I remember I was reading, I was reading as learning and consuming so much knowledge in that state. And then setting out the plans for say, like, morning routines, and then incorporating and then keep testing, keep adding what speaks to you most and what impacts you the most, from a third perspective. So I love that you listen to your podcast, because oftentimes, we live from our first perspective, we can shift into third, you can then see things that you can’t see from the first perspective. Because let’s just say from me, from my first perspective, there can be certain blinders, right? blind spots that we don’t see each other, when we shift into the third can then say,  how often do people not acknowledge themselves? Right? How often into people. Just keep thinking, What’s next, what’s next, I’m going to double my sales, I’ll great I’m going to triple I’m going 10 X, I’m going to half into people not just stop and just say, acknowledge themselves for what they’ve already accomplished, and what they’ve already done. So from that mindset, I found just from the third perspective, mindset, you can see the truth. Again, like, there are certain practices, certain things that I do, I’ve learned from different teachings, for example, one is to look in the mirror, and to acknowledge yourself every day, knowledge yourself, like, just go on a rant of seven things. This says your name, James, I acknowledge you for knowledge before recycling, today, I acknowledge you for walking that person across the street. And that builds a certain muscle within you have an also a practice of acknowledgment. Also, forgiveness, commitment to yourself. And I added the last one, which is gratitude. It’s a muscle, people often see like, somebody walking down the street, they’re super peak performance, state, you can say like, all of that person, they run a triathlon or there’s super, super fit or strong people can see that outside. But how often can you see into other people’s minds? How much work they’ve done into growing and empowering themselves through books?

CK LIN 35:51

how do you see that? How do you see in others work that I’ve done, to overcome whatever challenge to have to achieve? Physical, the physical state, the mental state, the emotional state, the spiritual state? How do you do that?

JAMES LIN 36:06

You can just intuitively when you’re talking to people, you can see who’s present to themselves. Right. And that’s something to calibration or just looking at how, how authentic people are to who they are. Right? And that you can tell people who are super grounded and know their purpose, they know their outcome. They put in the work, or they uncovered what the truth is.

CK LIN 36:34

So my next question would be because you invested quite a lot of money, right to the Tony’s Platinum program is 100, grand or something like that, right? So for your friends who are listening, I have a specific person in mind, that’s our mutual friend of ours. He doesn’t do programs, he likes to do self-exploration. What would you say to someone like that like, Hey, you may you want to invest in yourself, as a way to help you get to the next level of whether it be business or success or fulfillment or relationship? Would you say to that, because you’ve done nine programs or nine seminars In one year? One may say, That’s a lot. Yeah. So and not the time the effort, but also the actual dollars? Right, right. So what would you say to someone like that? who’s listening?

JAMES LIN 37:27

I would say that different people have different ways to grow, and learn so how one learns, can be dramatically different, right? some people learn through visually seeing things versus hearing it so I just found that this works incredibly well, for me, because of all the transformation that I’ve had. , others just depend on what their mode of learning is. Right? I would say, one of them, one of the deciding factors that I felt was listening to my intuition, right, when I was at  Date With Destiny, December, and there was just a part of me that just felt this was the right thing. And this was the right path, like, it just resonated with me. And I would say, then I compared it to an MBA. So , before in the past, I thought, like, when I was an undergrad, I really wanted to go to MBA school. And I went through this process of taking a GMAT studying for and then when I got there, I realized, is this what I asked myself? Is this what I really want, even though all the work that I did to get to that point, I was going to go to USC went to orientation. But to uncover what resonates with the way you learn best. So this was probably the commitment that I made really quickly, based on my intuition is one of the best decisions I made, because of all the, all the changes. It’s, it’s, it’s hard to like, say, to compare to say, like, Oh, you do this, you will get this result. It’s people discovering from within what, how they learn. , and there’s a lot of truth out there a lot of knowledge out there. Sure. So a mutual friend, they could go on a different path completely. But still, there are many ways to succeed, right? It’s just owning what works for you. And to be to, to be brutally honest, with like, if this is moving you forward, what are you going to do commit to get to that next level?

CK LIN 40:04

Yeah, there’s a lot of different paths in a mountain top. Yes. Right, metaphorical. And once you get to the mountaintop, quote, unquote, you also realize that there are many mountain tops. Yeah. So and it’s complete self-evaluation. So what I heard in everything that you said is, well find your own path. Look for different teachers, immerse yourself and cultivate your intuition. that awareness, that awareness towards yourself, why actually feels right to you?

JAMES LIN 40:40

Yes. Is that? Yes. And there’s this other concept of when I, when I made this decision, again, and again, afterward, I looked back, and it’s like, oh, it’s a big decision, a big cost, time commitment. But it’s this idea, a victory to the big mind.

CK LIN 41:03

What does that mean?

JAMES LIN 41:04

So when I started my business, I had to figure out I didn’t have a lot of money, I had to be really creative and figure out maximizing the resources that I had. Right, right. And so I realized, what got me to a certain level was that skill of like, Okay, if there’s I ended up 2008 going all-in on real estate. I use this example of like, if there are three contractors that you could work with, there’s the most cost-effective, there’s medium-range, and then there’s the most expensive, right? So I learned when I starting out, I had to go with I had to discover how to, with limited resource, how to get really creative with that. most cost-effective,

CK LIN 42:02

maximum outcome

JAMES LIN 42:02

maximum outcome. Yeah. And then as I built that up, I realized that I got to the next level, what got me here isn’t what’s going to get me next level, right, because of certain skills that we learned. Let’s say, I got if you had asked me even a couple of years ago, when I spent this capital no way. Yeah. But as I’m learning even from my mentor, just observing this, a victory to the big mind, is this practice or art? of like, yeah, you hit a certain level, but you have to let go of certain things. Right, let go of certain mindsets, that the principles may apply. But elevating your standard. And I felt that’s what I did with that decision. And so committing to growth, commitment into yourself and your truth. I would say it’s a victory to the big mind. Because the small mind might be like, all this where can I get this return going to? , like, I just keep going into, like, trying to figure out, how is this actually going to return versus my intuition told me, spoke to me like, Ah, this is for sure the path, this is not just the MBA about how to be successful, this is tied in with everything, right, with health, contribution, growth, love with teaching other people. And so that’s how I made my decision.

CK LIN 43:41

So you’ve carved out a certain budget certain times and an effort to the pursuit of growth. Yeah, you immerse yourself in different wisdom teachings were more specifically Platinum Partnership with Tony Robbins. He’s your guy right now. So what, uh, what other ways do you put in place as a way to help you elevate your standard while continuing to live at that elevated state? Rather than? Oh, it’s great for a weekend? Let me go back to my normal state now.

JAMES LIN 44:14

Great question. And I always share this with people who inquire about this now are asked me like, how do I maintain the state? Breakthroughs can happen at any moment. Right? When you are in a change of state if you will. You breakthrough you see what is possible?

CK LIN 44:36

by state? You mean a momentary emotional feeling? Is that accurate?

JAMES LIN 44:41

Yeah, the state of how you’re being? Okay.

CK LIN 44:44

Right. So I just wanted to make sure that our listeners Yeah, so.

JAMES LIN 44:49

So with that, like, from that state of transformation. It’s not just about mountaintops, it’s about enjoying the entire journey, even the challenges as opportunities for growth. So one of the things I did immediately was, I started to do priming in the morning. So priming is basically this practice, where one you do deep breathing, so you oxygenate the brain first thing get up before like, reacting cell phones, things that. To do deep breathing, drawing energy within you, then you bring up three moments in time when you felt so grateful. Go into those moments. So you’re reliving those moments of gratitude. And then you visualize, you visualize, like, your outcome, visualize, like, what, what is your not just goals, what is your outcome, and see it as done already. So it’s basically a way to prime yourself for the day. So to set your intentions is another one and also to, to kind of feel another part of it is visualizing, a light cleansing, you give me strength. So it’s a combination of all those things that put you into a state where you’re like, Ah, I’m ready for today, today is going to be another incredible day, regardless of what happens, because every day is amazing. Every day is another day where we have so much to be grateful for. What we focus on is where the energy goes, Yeah. Right. So if we’re focused on what we fear, that’s what you’re creating, that’s where you’re putting energy and attention to, rather than having your outcomes at the beginning of the day, like, Okay, I’m, I’m at  Date With Destiny, one of my contribution outcomes is to give and give now, so, there I, I put out to the universe that I’m going to build my first school, okay. And dedicated to my grandmother. And funny thing, when you release it out to the Universe by saying it, by writing it by, just constantly focusing your intention energy on it. There’s something very powerful about the law of attraction. , somebody then introduced me like, Oh, this person’s already built the school, the Philippines, let me introduce you guys. So, priming has a lot of also creates a certain certainty that grounds you, to prepare you for the day and also prepare you for taking the steps progress to your outcomes.

CK LIN 48:05

Yeah, I mean, there’s a lot of paths to begin. For the people who don’t yet quite believe in the power of intention. This is hard to fathom. Because it feels like a lot of woo-woo stuff like, no, it’s not tangible. It’s not measurable. How do you actually do it? But if you really think about it, everything that you see around you, at one point was an idea in someone’s head. And there is a gap between intention and reality, physical reality. So how do you actually sustain an intention to reality? I think what you’re sharing is a very powerful practice. And, people may not actually practice everything. But I think a good place to start may be putting yourself in a state where you are resourceful. As in, what are you grateful for? What do you want to acknowledge? What have you done, as a way to, you can call it whatever you want to call it the placebo effect? I don’t care anymore, right? At this point, I care about the effect. The fact is, I am more resourceful. Because of these practices. Hell yeah, go for it. Whatever you want to believe, right? I’m very much in the same way, priming, and, get into the body and meditate and resourceful and set my intention. And what are you grateful for? For sure, all of that. But I just wanted to underline to someone who’s listening who may not be a convert yet. Whatever you do to put yourself in a more resourceful state, do that thing. do it. And then you can try out some other things that these, practices that James are talking about because, in the end, it’s about if you’re listening to this particular podcast is about results. Right? Are you more resourceful to go out And actually bring that beautiful idea you had into reality? If yes, do it. Now stop doing it? That’s it. Right. Pretty simple. And from my point of view,

JAMES LIN 50:13

yeah, testing out different things, I would say, because I was very, very left-brained.

CK LIN 50:21

You are speaking to one right now too

JAMES LIN 50:22

Yeah, very, very, just very, very logical. And that can be a great attribute for, building businesses and things like that. But I would say when I on this journey, I started just keeping an open mind to what is possible, and then just testing it. I’m like, oh, I, I absolutely believe in this and, consistently show up. It’s like, oh, it works. Yeah. , oh, versus, I would say to some of your listeners, one, the problem is usually not the problem, right? The problems, usually the state, that you enter the problem, I see. So the same scenario can happen but from a different state of empowerment or state of where you just absolutely crushed it. from that state, more possibilities can emerge and more choice can emerge. And that, I believe, is tapping into your unconscious as well. When you’re in the state, because there’s, there’s, like, let’s say, different parts of us that want different things. And sometimes we’re in conflict, all we want a here but then we don’t want to give that up to for B , And to me, that’s finding the congruency of who you are, where all parts of you are coming together gather to stand for what your purpose what you’re about finding, and that’s like, to me that’s about flow. Right. So again, you don’t have the power of the mind what you believe is Incredible. Right? So test it out. Right? And if something’s not working, yeah, then try something else and try something else, But yeah, I would find from my journey, like, the more I’ve opened my mind to the possibilities, and again, I don’t, now when I’m learning, it’s not like, Oh, I have to agree 100% with one methodology, right. But from that, if I if I have a filter, like, Oh, you’re already skeptical. Yeah. if you’re already skeptical about something, yeah. , if you already have that filter lens, then your mind will make that true. Yeah, like, Oh, yeah, I was right.

CK LIN 52:59

Yes, doesn’t work.

JAMES LIN 53:01

, and you just make that right. versus if you approach completely, from. You could learn, let’s say, 10% this, from this book, because it could reject 90%. But you take that 10%, and then from another book or idea, take 50%, then you build more and more knowledge versus like, I don’t want to change or I don’t, I heard this or my friend said, this about this book, there are more like, Oh, I respect him, therefore, this book is not what it’s about.

CK LIN 53:39

So let me ask you this. To some people, it’s scary, to be that open-minded, to really look, the whole construct the whole scaffolding of their belief system, all the memories, good or bad, trauma, things that are embarrassed about things that are traumatized by the bullying experience, right. So what do you say to that? , Is it scary? So what do you say to them?

JAMES LIN 54:09

I would say that one of the things that I learned from my mentor is how uncomfortable you’re willing to get and be there is inversely related to how successful you’ll be in life. Because that’s where the growth is, again, the fears there, for some reason, in the past, the mind wanting to protect itself, right? This the human survival instinct of like, like, this is uncomfortable, therefore, I don’t want to feel it. Just from experience, breaking through, whatever pace there’s a times dissatisfaction opening, when you breakthrough, you will say, your mind and like, think, what else is possible. Like, for example, before, let’s say with skydiving, I remember when I was like 17, or 18, a friend of mine is going into the military. He said I want to go skydiving. I said, Yeah, let’s do it. And the night before skydiving, guess what I did? I googled how many people die skydiving

CK LIN 55:38

as a left minded person would do, right?

JAMES LIN 55:40

Yeah, not a brilliant move. I mean, watch the video, some guy bouncing. So, man, I backed out. And I had always felt some kind of regret from that. And so throughout the years, I broke it down into multiple steps. First, there was rock jumping in Hawaii. , this is fine, cliff diving. Yeah. Like, this is fine. This is actually pretty fun. Yeah. And then next, I went to Rio, when I was exploring the four-hour workweek lifestyle, went to Rio for the World Cup. Yeah. And found out that hang gliding is one of the safest places in the world hang glide.

CK LIN 56:23

Oh, I didn’t know that. Okay, yeah.

JAMES LIN 56:25

So you go off the 5000 feet, and you basically, you run off a cliff, and then you’re like a big kite. Right. And you just soaring through the cloud. Right? Then I was like, I think I’m ready for skydiving. Yeah. And then, like, some time passed, and the friend asked me, wanna go skydiving? Sure. And so we go to Santa Barbara. Yeah. And it’s the only place that they advertise on the West Coast that can go 18,000 feet, versus 13,000.

CK LIN 56:57

Okay, you have to go a little longer.

JAMES LIN 57:00

Yeah, you have to wear an oxygen mask for an extra 5~10 minutes to climb to descend. And remember, when I got there, to that desk, everyone in the group went for 13,000. And I said what, I’m already here. Let’s do 18,000 ft. Yeah,

CK LIN 57:22

when you go, when you do something, you go big. That’s your style.

JAMES LIN 57:30

when I jumped off that plane like first, just to show the viewers who haven’t been skydiving, like, they open the door, and they will say, Okay, I’ll count to three, I’m gonna go, right. And on the count of one, they just push you out. They must have had too many refunds or something. So bad, because I was the only person doing the 18,000 feet. I witnessed this on ready, ready. And so after everybody went, I’m just there. Climbing, climbing, climbing, the door opens, you always have to go with the instructor and tandem. And they put me outside the plane. And all of a sudden, I hear my instructor say sorry, to the captain. So apparently, he opened the door too early. So I was hanging outside of the plane, like a good two minutes. Felt like a lifetime. Right. And I was hanging there like a kangaroo. And I was like, looking down the hole right up, I felt a sense of calm like this is, I’m ready for this. Yeah, and even when I was hanging out, man, this is a unique experience, I get to actually hang out of the plane against what the mind, what you focus on. And then when I first went, this is on video, like that first moment of like, free fall, I was like, oh, man, like this just rush. But after that initial moment, I like, just basically rocked out the whole way down is doing like Superman, it’s like, and let me just share this with your listeners. When you do something that you once thought you cannot do in your life before that it was not a possibility. And you do that. Your brain then opens up to thinking, what else can I do that I once thought I can do. And that is an empowering feeling. Because then you realize that you now in the present is so much wiser. , there’s so much more growth so much more, the adult you if you will, what have you limited yourself from past experience, maybe a rejection when you were, a middle school or something like asking a girl for a dance or something like that. What did you previously the side was like, Ah, it was and has a hesitation, it empowers and opens up so many doors. And the more you do that, the more than you, it can and metaphor could be like leveling up in a video game. Right? You just add more and more levels, and then you achieve your breakthrough, more of what’s the possibility that you can create for yourself and create for others? And that’s what I would say it’s like, if something, something, really, you’re really afraid of it. A question is why? Where did this fear come from? Sometimes people even forget about it consciously, like something that happened to them when they were young. Right? There could be some kind of negative anchor. Right? if, if, let’s say for example if I was six, and, somebody took a clipboard, and we’re just hitting my head beating me up on it, right, beating me up. It could be 2030 years later, we’d be having a great conversation with a friend just have a magnificent night hanging out. All of a sudden they bring a clipboard out. And I’m like, oh, I don’t exactly remember being beaten up by a clipboard, right? But my, my unconsciously signal SOS Danger, danger. Oh, maybe it’s CK, I don’t know what’s in it. And then it’s a fight or flight, feeling that comes up. Right. So to really go into, why does it make you feel uncomfortable? I think it’s important. Because again, at the end of that wall, and I’ve broken through a lot, and again, it’s a journey, right? When you break through walls that want to limit you, possibilities open up, and that’s such an empowering feeling. Then you’re like, Oh, well, I was this way before because of what happened. , like, for example, you’ve been doing this podcast, right? , I remember when I, I think it was six or seventh grade, all of a sudden, this memory came to me Just recently, like, I was part of a play, where I was literally the tree. I was a prop. I was just standing there. And I was beating myself up? And then

CK LIN 1:02:23

wait, why

JAMES LIN 1:02:24

I was beating myself up because I was judging myself for having no speaking role. Maybe, past experiences like being bullied. And so now just empowering myself to share my voice right? I realized it’s my it’s part of my destiny.

CK LIN 1:02:47

the journey from being a tree to Noble Warrior. Yeah.

JAMES LIN 1:02:54

And then I realized, it’s, it’s not about me, it’s about what I can you no impact what I can share. And, as I broke through this year, starting to do Facebook, live videos, Oh,

CK LIN 1:03:10

right. Amazing, by the way, just keep dancing.

JAMES LIN 1:03:15

reminding myself that even if I can impact one person that, that I’m serving, I’m contributing. And that has elevated me to rise above the natural, previously tendency of like, Oh, like, I don’t have to speak in front of a lot of people, I versus now. It’s like, what can I share with people through my journey, because everybody, everybody has challenges that they overcame, everybody has a voice, I truly believe that everyone has a gift, everyone is amazing as they are, oftentimes, they just don’t see it. Or they reflect what is social or cultural conditioning, of like, Oh, I gotta go this path in order to be aka successful or do what my parents expected out of me in certain cultures, right. But the process of freeing and awakening yourself is, it’s so beautiful, that I just wanted to share, like, and take it step by step if you want, or when there’s opening of where discomfort becomes, to a certain point where discomfort becomes like, there’s an opening of like, where you’re going to make a changing and make it now breakthrough through and then take actions that commit yourself to that. And continue to grow. Right? know, when I was done after college, I was like, Oh, I don’t want to read anymore. That was like, Oh, that’s not true, there’s so much the more I’ve learned, the more there is to learn, right? So there’s some statistic that after college certain percentage of the population is just like, I don’t have to read anymore, right now, let’s say reading allows you to get insight into what other people and their stories of what they share. And there are so many incredible journeys out there from people overcoming phobias, past traumas, and bullying. Yeah, bullying, or yeah, whatever fear that they had, and they overcame it. And they share that beautiful thing because that inspires more people say I grew up in San Gabriel Valley, like, Tony actually came from San Gabriel Valley. So that’s possible, to see what is possible of what life can be possible, i thought it is truly empowering.

CK LIN 1:05:59

, one of the things I realized for because I’m very much, so I grew up with Tiger parents, very much an outcome-driven type of parenting, if I didn’t achieve a certain outcome, right? The effort wasn’t worth it, kinda thing. So I learned that over the years, the analogy, the metaphor, is if I’m watching the NFL play, and say, hey, I want to do football, but I’m not yet at an NFL level. I’m worthless for not being at the NFL level without realizing that they took 10,000, probably 20,000, probably 30,000. So I’m going from zero and judging myself from being a zero, where they are already at 20 to 30,000. And of course, it’s like, I’m not doing that, especially about come from outcome-driven, kind of perspective, right? versus effort driven. Like, hey, I’m gonna enjoy every step of the journey, enjoying the process, enjoy the process. So one of the latest thing that I’m practicing right now is boxing. In Case in point, and it really got me to that primal state of survival. Someone is punching me in the face, right? and I’d notice these being aware of the awareness, these flinching moment, where I know logically, my my, I should lean for a mega hug, or whatever may be the combination that half, but when that fist is coming your way, the second time now, they’re ready to punch you in the first. The fist is coming again the second time, the flinching is real. And then for me, spiritually speaking, is a perfect opportunity for me to act a link forward. That’s where the growth opportunity. Yes, beautiful, right. Love that. Yeah. And that’s an actually people think like, why a Ph.D. guy, entrepreneur? Why are you doing this boxing thing? It makes no sense. But for me, is it actually a spiritual practice? Because the thing is, I can meditate all day and believe that I can be calm. And I am calm most of the time. Yeah. How do you be calm and meditative? When someone’s punching you in the stomach in the face and the body shots? That to me is the real test. Do you know what I mean? So similarly, entrepreneurship, you can be meditative all day, you can have all the theories day one when you’re looking at your cash flow, and you got to make payroll. And sometimes you’re like, how am I gonna make that happen? How do you actually tap into the inner resource and be creative actually make that happen? That’s when the real test comes. That’s the way I look at all these different paths. But it’s still the same spiritual path, just different way. He has a parent, as a spouse, as a brother, as a son, as a friend, as an entrepreneur, as a leader as a podcaster.

JAMES LIN 1:09:08

So for me, it’s about flow. Like, what you mentioned about boxing, that’s a great example of like, when your primal instincts kick in the right, you know when someone’s actually

CK LIN 1:09:23

fight, flight or freeze.

JAMES LIN 1:09:25

Yes. And so I would say, tapping into one’s flow. And what resonates with them, let’s say boxing in your case, when you, let’s say practice, or you do it over and over where your unconscious then, like, knows what to do to react without thinking, I gotta defend, right? And just reacting and unconsciously ducking when you’re in that state of flow, your unconscious knows what to do. So I would say, similarly to business, when you’re looking at cash flow, you can react to like, okay sales, and you get this or this. If you put yourself into that state of flow, and apply that context, new things will emerge.

CK LIN 1:10:21

So let me ask you a follow-up question there, right. So in the book Blink, Malcolm Gladwell said this whole idea of flow and tapping into it, he said, you’re more likely to make the correct choice when you have all the 10,000 hours already. So you can actually be more intuitive and connect the dots in the correct path. Right in the blink of a moment, hence the name blink. Yeah. So I can tell you that right now. If I trust my instincts in boxing when I’m still learning, I’m going to make the incorrect assessment and freeze. Because that’s the fight flight or freeze, right? And that’s like, what the primal instincts will resort to. So in the learning process, then how do you distinguish basically being flow at the same time knowing that you are still in training? does it make sense what I’m asking?

JAMES LIN 1:11:22

Yes. So when you model after someone who has done 100,000 hours, you can learn unconsciously from them. So you can get there much quicker without putting this? , because I had this thing? Also, as well before of like, what is the master? Like, ah I haven’t done 10,000 hour

CK LIN 1:11:46

what is a master Actually, let’s go that go go down that rabbit hole?

JAMES LIN 1:11:50

So before I would, I will relate it from my past experience, like, Oh, I have to do 10,000 hours to become a master. But that’s a judgment and the limiting belief that only when you hit 10,000 hours will you become ready? So, being a master, a friend mentioned this, is when you have someone to teach.

CK LIN 1:12:18

Interesting.

JAMES LIN 1:12:19

Yeah. So that kind of perspective helped me be conscious of the language that I was using. Because for a period, I was like, Oh, yeah Tony said this, this person said this, and there’s truth that the Masters being Tony’s done it for 40 years. But for me, if I think only when I get to 40 years will I become a master is not congruent with the truth of like, this is something that as far as coaching or empowering people you can do right away, right, but without judging yourself that to place that label of like, only then will I be ready. And that could be hesitation or some kind of past limiting belief of like, only when you put in 10,000 hours where you become master.

CK LIN 1:13:17

So why would say one readiness to teach

JAMES LIN 1:13:19

to readiness to teach, but the master can be someone who has someone to teach. I found by modeling after someone who’s done it for 100,000 hours, or however many, you can learn from it much quicker. So even, besides just doing it, and  training, sparring, watching how somebody who train seven days a week, or someone who won a gold medal or like, going for the best and observing them modeling after them learning, like, what did they do whatever they do, that’s different, it makes them win a gold medal. Right? And then from that, you can take away so much more quickly.

CK LIN 1:14:09

Yeah, one of the best ways I learned as a way to accelerate your learning because I’m the kind of person and also I would assert people listening to this podcast, it’s more about achieving the outcome more accelerated way, right, more effective, more efficient, kind of way. So one of the mental models I want to share with, with you as well with the listeners is you learn from the Masters, or even the grandmasters and people who have done a lot more hours and you. And you also synthesize and teach those who are 3 steps behind you. Yes, yes. So this is a learning and teaching way we really help you articulate? Well, number one, be aware of what is it that you know, what is it that you don’t know, as well as to embody it, because now you also have accountable to embody it to your students, wherever they maybe? Right? Yes. And this way, learn one and then teach one to me is learn from one and teach to another one is, to me the most accelerated way that you can really learn something, that’s the way I think about it.

JAMES LIN 1:15:17

I agree with that. Hundred percent. I realized, when I am at these events, taking notes and learning, but with the intention of teaching it, you learn it in a different way you absorb more, because if you only learn what you consciously think applies to you, there’s so much more material content that you might just filter off. versus when you’re learning to teach you just activate your brain, so much more engaging way. And then when teach it one, you’re sharing love, and you’re sharing the knowledge and two, you’re also absorbing it so much quicker. So I definitely agree with that. And that’s something that I, I found through my journey of like, learning, and then sharing, learning and sharing it. And so before I had this language with what is a master that, like, okay, after this year, or after then I’ll start to be out of feel like I’m more ready to share, versus when that when I had that, that two millimeter shift in mindset. And I started sharing and Sharing from the heart.

CK LIN 1:16:41

Yeah, because otherwise, you’re always I can speak for you. I was always in student mode. Right?

JAMES LIN 1:16:47

Exactly. You’re always I’m always like I could have I could be better, right?

CK LIN 1:16:48

Because I’m looking at myself to the NFL player. Right? I am looking at the grandmasters and looking at the world’s number one, correct? Even for me, since I’m in the, in the intersection of entrepreneurship and spirituality. I’m looking at the Grandmaster, the Confucius the LaoTse, the Allen Watts like, these are like, Master storytellers, the Jesus Christ, right. And I’m like, not ready to be that and just yet. So cool, beautiful. So since your purpose, your mission is to share about flow, do you want to finish this podcast with some of the tidbits of because I know we went over a few already, but to summarize, if people are interested in tap into flow more in their life, might be like, three things that they could do to actualize this idea if they’re inspired by your story.

JAMES LIN 1:17:52

So I would say for one when meditating, or think of the moments in their life, where they felt the most flow? Right? So one is to recall the moments and be there, I go into those moments, recreate that in your mind with your eyes closed as vividly as possible. And take a look around and see that memory, that’s a part of you already when you were in fully flow state, and you had a resource within you. So recall that memory and go deep into it. And then from that step into a certain context, where you feel and unresourceful, right, so it’s a practice of basically,  whatever hesitation or fear comes up about making a decision to go with one way versus another and you’re uncertain, I would say, practice that one can do is to go into to the past of what’s already worked for them individually. And to bring it up visually, and make it as bright and big as possible. And then from that state, then go into the context of what that decision, and then your unconscious, if you continue to train that as part of the muscle, that your unconscious will guide you more and more into better, better decisions, what’s right for you when it’s right for you. So that would be one practice. Second practice is doing something every day, that puts you into flow. Right? For some people, it’s meditation, priming, but what’s the, what’s the activity that you do? When you just not really thinking about it? And , or a gift you have some people play music some people sing, whatever speaks to them, where they put themselves in that state, just be being present now. And doing that as a daily practice or consistent practice, so that that feeling is there versus when i win the Grammys, then I feel I achieve something that lasts for a minute, right? And then you have to wait to win another Grammy before you feel that’s right. I’ve met so many peak performers throughout my journey where one they don’t acknowledge themselves, and then they only feel that they feel it’s flow when they have that achievement, but it’s only very brief. So consistently putting yourself in a state that just feels right to you. Right. So people to dance the dance every day. Why? Why wait, that’s one of the things I discovered about my journey. So why wait till events festivals? Or it’s dance? What if? What if you could just dance every day? What love that dance through life? Yeah. Like, again, that’s what resonates with me personally. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:21:04

yeah. Keep doing it, by the way. Thank you.

JAMES LIN 1:21:09

But yeah, do something that just resonates with your truth, even when there’s no external like, acknowledgment, or just something that speaks your truth could be boxing could be golfing, like, whatever puts you in that state. Whatever puts you in that state. And then, so you have that feeling within you. , you ever, have certain days where things just seem to go your way.  these are just flowing you feel unstoppable or you feel just some rhythm to things. Find ways to put yourself into that rhythm, and then watch how that can apply to other parts of your life. The second third would be Yeah, I would more understand and read it. There’s a book stealing fire, then I’m reading

CK LIN 1:22:15

Steven Kotler and Jamie Wheal.

JAMES LIN 1:22:19

reading about flow. I feel like, at times, there are blockages in us, and that comes from fear that comes from hesitation to understand this concept of flow, I would, I would highly recommend reading more about why are some people just like, in that state all the time? And what are the patterns around that that one can Model Model after. So I would say the third thing is just learning more about flow and how to bring more flow into your lives.

CK LIN 1:23:00

I want to actually add one more by Josh Waitzkin. He wrote it in the art of learning. Josh Waitzkinn was the inspiration for this movie called Finding Bobby Fischer. I think that’s the name. And he was one of the youngest chess prodigies, he won the World Champion at his level at eight years old. And has since actually gone out of chess and be a world champion in push hand Tai Chi. He now is a black belt in jujitsu. So he really is a master of learning. the meta aspect of learning, yeah, Master of that. So one thing he said about tap into flow is, is this. So there are certain things that he naturally does that would put him in flow naturally, for him was playing with his kids, or his kid, rather, he would then add a habit, anchoring habit, Ah, nice before he naturally would play with his kid. Yeah. So as a way to anchor that flow state. And then will train himself to get into that state faster and faster. So instead of, say, 15 minutes before he plays with his kid, he would then shorten it to 10 minutes to five minutes to them one minute and actually put himself in that state, so that he can recall that flow state whenever he wants, before a push hand competition, or before a serious chest competition, things like that. So that’s another way to look at. Instead of generating from nothing, now cultivating flow state for meditation, or whatever it may be, to just anchor it to whatever it is that you naturally do anyway, that’s another way to do it.

JAMES LIN 1:24:51

That’s a beautiful reshare anchoring as a way to bring back that state by doing something unique feeling your body or visual anchor or even music can anchor, like, like, play a specific song, when you are absolutely just being in flow, just doing something that , whether it’s like, let’s say, playing guitar, right, like, let’s say, somebody just flowing through guitar, playing certain music, and that anchors it. And then so when they come up with a challenge, or there’s a challenge that arises, playing that same music, and then seeing from that, like, ah, more choice can emerge, and more perspective of how to address that challenge.

CK LIN 1:25:43

Love it. Thank you. Actually, there’s one thing I forgot to ask you about peer group? Yes. Because you’re now running with different level of people at the Platinum group, how does that change you? or help you maintain the level of flow state? Or taking bigger actions or beyond what you think is possible things like that. Any you want to say speak about that a little bit. The importance of peer group?

JAMES LIN 1:26:08

Yes, I would say peer groups is very important, because of who you choose to surround yourself with, I mentioned earlier, that you can be the average of the five or six people around you. For me, personally, it’s elevating me to a new standard of what I set for myself by learning and growing and sharing with others, or like-minded, and on this path, right. So , I’m part of an accountability group, where we come together, and we share our top 5%, bottom 5%, it’s important to have a mastermind group. And the talk about this. Most people know, Napoleon Hills Think and Grow Rich. There’s also a secondary book law of success, I’ve found incredible in talks a lot about this, by being able to bounce ideas, and to share the victories, the battles, the defeats, there’s something about that, where you create an energy, that is you create a certain community mindset energy, that, you’ll be able to see things that you wouldn’t see just from your perspective, a lot of times, people think the conscious mind has a lot of thoughts, when you express it, and you’re able to express your outcome to your peer group, you’re able to express your goals, once. Once you say it out loud, there’s just some, there’s something about that, that makes it more real, it makes it more like, you hold yourself accountable to because if I, if I and I noticed this with my accountability groups with my mentor now mentees know by, by sharing that, you create this synergistic energy, that just something powerful about growing together and being able to share in the victory, celebrate the victories, again, sometimes we don’t celebrate it enough, right, the acknowledgement of what we do, who we are, and also to be able to brainstorm about the challenges to get different perspective, I found so insightful, because you’ll be able to see like, oh, there’s another way to look at it. So the power of the peer group since joining Tony’s Platinum partners, I just felt so I feel so grateful of just learning from each other there’s a level of open-mindedness and community that I really feel a sense of belonging, I’m very honored to be part of that. And even just among also my accountability groups, and the people I have around me,

CK LIN 1:29:35

thanks so much for sharing. , one of the things that I mean, I shared with you privately, and people may not know about it is because I hold these masterminds as well for entrepreneurs, and we go through transformational experiences, we create a safe container for people to really talk about what needs to be talked about. And there’s a huge value in that, because one, the mental model that I share with people is performance equals flow minus interference. And in a safe container, you can take an honest look about what’s interfering with your intention, with your performance, with your goals, where you want to get to. And, and also in that container, in that safe container, you can then speak your intention into being the power of speaking, putting words into a powerful listening, of these powerful people that are in the group. That to me, speaking in a spiritual sense, is super powerful. Because it’s not just speaking into nothingness. And to the abyss, you’re now speaking to a very powerful listening. And if you do that with the entire group, the ripple effect truly accelerates your intention to reality. That’s, that’s really one of the impetus, the reason why I created the group as a way to, to help bring more positive changes into the world. So James, I really acknowledge you for sharing your story, your narrative, and you were so generous in share with us, I truly am. And you pay so much money for the tools, the books, the different mental models. So for people who are inspired by your story, how do they find out about tapping into more of the flow in their life in their relationships and their business? Where can they find you? Where can they follow you?

JAMES LIN 1:31:51

So, right now, I basically, first thank you for this opportunity. Just so honored to be able to share, you have this amazing platform of sharing your gift. really makes an impact on people. So thank you for that. Yeah, so right now, I essentially am doing one on one coaching at the moment. So I’m sharing flow sessions, about tapping into different tools and techniques of empowering people in tapping into their flow. So I can share with you some details afterward about how to get in touch me.

CK LIN 1:32:40

We’ll put it in the show notes.

JAMES LIN 1:32:42

Yeah. Okay. The show notes. Right for the next couple of weeks right now. I’m here in LA. And I’m just, I’m just doing all these flow sessions, one on one for sessions, whether through in-person or zoom. So yeah, I’ll share with you the details. listeners can, whoever is interested. All right, amazing.

CK LIN 1:33:03

Thank you so much, James. All right, guys. Focus on flow and do what James told you.

JAMES LIN 1:33:10

And one more thing I would say is be the light that you want to see in the world.

CK LIN 1:33:20

With that have a beautiful rest of the day guys

JAMES LIN 1:33:23

Okay, enjoy.